darkangel1(Darrell)
Gates of Antares
Master of the Ravenwing
The Dark Angels the First Legion the true Angels of Death
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Post by darkangel1(Darrell) on Oct 14, 2008 16:13:37 GMT
guys there is a link on the bell of lost souls web site to a new official f.a.q. guess what bikes can now turbo boost in their scout move hahahaha!!!!!!! here come the ravenwing!!! ;D
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Post by Liam Thompson on Oct 14, 2008 18:48:15 GMT
Sadly, Ravenwing still can't turbo-boost. GW has stated that Codexes overrule the Rulebook. Therefore the Ravening still cannot turbo-boost as it states specifically in the Codex that they may not.
Just another place where the Dark Angels Codex was shafted compared to the new Space Marines Codex, especially as the new Dark Angels FAQ effectively stated on the Wargear issue, "You can use the rules from Codex: Space Marines if you ask your opponent's permission." What a bloody cop-out. They knew that they'd screwed the Dark Angels players, and this FAQ entry does NOTHING to right things.
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darkangel1(Darrell)
Gates of Antares
Master of the Ravenwing
The Dark Angels the First Legion the true Angels of Death
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Post by darkangel1(Darrell) on Oct 14, 2008 20:54:26 GMT
i have contacted gw on this and as the 5th edition rues are newer they superside the codex wooohoo come on you angels
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Post by Liam Thompson on Oct 14, 2008 22:42:12 GMT
*sigh* Sadly, the GW Roolzboys aren't always correct.
So, by definition, the Dark Angels' Scouts rule is identical to the one given on page 76 of the rulebook, with the addition of "Ravenwing Bikers may not make use of the Turbo-boosters rule during their Scout move."
In black and white, between the rulebook and the Codex, Ravenwing Bikers may not Turbo-boost during a Scout move.
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Post by kevin1shakeandmake on Oct 15, 2008 14:32:10 GMT
Hello Liam
You could help me with that Blood Angels army I purchased a month ago.
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Post by kevin1shakeandmake on Oct 15, 2008 14:34:14 GMT
Hello Liam
What can turbo boost in Blood Angels ?
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Post by Liam Thompson on Oct 15, 2008 15:02:20 GMT
Anything with the Bikes unit type, as described on page 53 of the Warhammer 40,000 5th Edition Rulebook.
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darkangel1(Darrell)
Gates of Antares
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Post by darkangel1(Darrell) on Oct 15, 2008 16:42:03 GMT
the new 40-k house rules confirm that the bikes can turbo boost in ths scout move as per the new faq
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Post by Liam Thompson on Oct 15, 2008 16:44:14 GMT
The name of such an FAQ, "House Rules," kinda demonstrates the fact that it's not an official ruling; it only counts at those events.
EDIT: Having now read the FAQ, I wonder where you've gotten this information from. It is not noted in either the core rulebook nor the Dark Angels section. In fact, question 32 specifically backs my point up; "the restrictions noted in Codexes remain in effect."
Plus, it seems that they haven't completely gone through and updated things. Questions 62 and 16, at a minimum seem like they've not been updated. Heck, even question 5, a new addition, seems to make no sense to me; it's as if they're answering a completely different question. It seems that there would still need to be further revisions.
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Post by kevin1shakeandmake on Oct 15, 2008 22:40:14 GMT
Hello Liam
Why I you always correct ? do brains have something to do with it.
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Post by kevin1shakeandmake on Oct 15, 2008 23:53:37 GMT
Hello Liam
Just fitted the turbo's to my Blood Angels bikes and guess what, they don't work.
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darkangel1(Darrell)
Gates of Antares
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Post by darkangel1(Darrell) on Oct 16, 2008 16:49:51 GMT
i agree liam there are some contradictions swe know ALL bikes are abel to turboboost but i shall e-mail GW to get a final ruling inthe issue of turbo boosting in the scout move phase
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Post by David B on Oct 16, 2008 19:35:18 GMT
Darrell, I have to say that I have to agree with Liam on thios one, have done some reading on this, and DA Codex does state that no model may make a Turbo Boost during Scout moves.
32. Do the rulebook versions of the Universal Special Rules fully replace their codex counter-parts, or do permissions and restrictions located within the rules text remain in effect? Only the actual rules are replaced – permissions and restrictions remain in effect.
This does indicate that the rule still stands. There does not appear to be an FAQ that overrides this rule in the Dark Angel codex. While the Scouts in SM codex can do this atm, this would not seem to change the situation for the DA.
I think it likely that the next SM FAQ will probably clarify the rule. I would clasify Turbo Boost as a Special Move rather than a normal move. The scout rule does state Scouts may make a normal move.
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Post by David B on Oct 16, 2008 19:43:30 GMT
OK I found the Rule Book FAQ which states that Bikes Can Turbo Boost, but it does specify in the DA Codex that theirs cannot.
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Post by kevin1shakeandmake on Oct 16, 2008 20:10:55 GMT
Hello Darrell
As you know I already have a Dark Angels army and you cannot turbo boost.
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