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Mar 30, 2010 11:10:04 GMT
Post by shamutanti on Mar 30, 2010 11:10:04 GMT
Hey guys, just a few quick question. I've been checking out Warhammer Ancient Battles and noticed there's a bunch of different books. Are these like 'army books'? Or are they set periods?
If they#re set periods can you play period vs. period if that's the case? Or are they all set within their own contexts and can't be placed against each other?
If they are set within themselves what's the most 'popular' period to play in the area.
Cheers.
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Mar 30, 2010 16:12:44 GMT
Post by Stephen Mawson on Mar 30, 2010 16:12:44 GMT
Bit of both really.
The books are generally for a set period, covering all the different armies that were involved in that particular period.
Hanibal for example covers the three Punic Wars, with army lists for the Republican Roman army of the period, the Carthaginian armies of each of the three Wars (as they varied more than the Romans) as well as army lists for Numideans, Gauls, and Celto-Iberians.
The armies within the books are mainly designed to fight against the other armies in that book. However we've found that at least for the older periods (say pre medieval) that armies from one book do generally work well enough against armies from another book.
You could in theory play Hittites (from Chariot Wars) vs a Yorkist War of the Roses army (from Armies of Chivalry) but you'd probably find the game a bit unbalanced in terms of exactly what each side gets for it's points.
In terms of what most people have at the club, we've mainly got stuff from the 200 BC through to about 300 AD period, mainly focused on the mediterranian. So Romans (of various periods), Carthaginians, Celts, Persians and Alexandrian Sucessor Greeks. There are also a few people with stuff that falls outside that. Basically covering Han Chinese, Romano-British, and Danes.
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Mar 30, 2010 16:33:45 GMT
Post by wstevens on Mar 30, 2010 16:33:45 GMT
Most people play mostly from 400BC with Spartans and early Achemenid Persians right through to Romans (any type), Carthaginians, Alexander book with later Archemenid (Imperial) Persians and Macedonians right through to Gauls, Celts, Vikings, Saxons and even Normans. Later than this I deem as being slightly unfair on early troops. Simon and I will be looking at the a game with 2000pts Normans vs Ancient Egyptians and seeing what happens. Normans won't get much for their points and can be penalised by 150pts if they take certain add ons. The egyptinas will of course have an extra 200pts to play with to try and balance up - this is part of the ABC system devised by some chaps at tournies (can't remember who at this minute).
What were you thinking of doing? It would be nice to see something different other than Romans - currently half the people that play play these. There isn't a German warband army or a Thracian army. This would be nice to play against. Or even a Spanish army as they introduced the scutellum to the Romans.
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Mar 30, 2010 17:18:52 GMT
Post by shamutanti on Mar 30, 2010 17:18:52 GMT
I had nothing set in mind really but something along the timelines of Boudica (or earlier) because that's where alot of my 'knowledge', or at least interest, has always sat. Although the Romans are cool n' all, the underdogs and the more medival and pre-med stuff has always attracted me more. So really it comes down to several set areas I like: Proper Barbarian style, ala Boudica, Celts, Germanic Tribes, etc. Knights - King Arthur style but that might just be my Brettonian routes tapping in Or something more 'out there' - Amazonian-esque. I looked through the website of WAB and was a bit surprised by the sheer number of books.
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Mar 30, 2010 17:54:16 GMT
Post by wstevens on Mar 30, 2010 17:54:16 GMT
Go for Germanic tribes - a refreshing change in as much as the name. Celts, gauls and the like really run the same way with basic warbands proliferating with Chariots abound backed up by cavalry, bowmen and slingers. Germanic tribes do have chosen warriors as well I believe. However you'll find the King Arthur knights would probably be Romano-British and not the armour clad chivalrous 12th and 13th century ones that some people would lead you to believe.
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Mar 30, 2010 21:45:00 GMT
Post by shamutanti on Mar 30, 2010 21:45:00 GMT
I see - so not the knights I'm thinking of then. Shame!
So say I go the German Tribe route. What books do I need for them and any suggestions for models? Sounds silly I know but the website for WAB doesn't have any models displayed. I know the Perry twins do various models outside of GW for WAB (if I remember correctly?) but is there any particular seller that's worth checking out?
Or is a case of finding a bunch of minatures you like from a company you like and going down that route?
Also - I presume it's the same 28mm (although realistic not heroic scale) of Fantasy, with large/small bases etc? Or am I wrong there.
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Mar 31, 2010 6:16:36 GMT
Post by carl on Mar 31, 2010 6:16:36 GMT
there are some new germanic tribe models coming out from Crusader Miniatures. look nice
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Mar 31, 2010 18:53:22 GMT
Post by wstevens on Mar 31, 2010 18:53:22 GMT
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Mar 31, 2010 20:05:11 GMT
Post by Simon Robinson on Mar 31, 2010 20:05:11 GMT
If you're interested in looking at any of the source books let me know - I've got them all
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Mar 31, 2010 21:11:41 GMT
Post by shamutanti on Mar 31, 2010 21:11:41 GMT
Interestingly I was looking around my room and found 'Fall of the West'. God knows how or when I picked that up!
Still, was looking through it and it all seemed a bit confusing like. No 'real' army list if you will.
Obviously I need the rule book but where do I get the army list for the Germanic Tribes? There's mention of Barbarians in the West book but nothing says straight out 'German' in there. xD
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Mar 31, 2010 22:24:02 GMT
Post by Simon Robinson on Mar 31, 2010 22:24:02 GMT
I know what you mean about fall of the west.
For Germanic tribes you
a) use the core rules - version 1.5 (the latest) which has the barbarians army list and the rules to provide specific variants.
b) use version 1 of the rules which has the barbarians army list and armies of antiquity supplement to provide specific variants.
c) Fall of the west - use western barbarians army list for the germanic tribes from just east of the Rhine
Options A and B are early Germanic tribes , C is for German tribes from the late 4th Centyary A.D. onwards
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May 19, 2010 22:24:33 GMT
Post by shamutanti on May 19, 2010 22:24:33 GMT
Ordered the rulebook today! £16
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May 20, 2010 9:39:27 GMT
Post by Simon Robinson on May 20, 2010 9:39:27 GMT
2.0? where from - I thought they were only available direct from Forge World
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May 25, 2010 0:17:46 GMT
Post by shamutanti on May 25, 2010 0:17:46 GMT
I, um... went to forge world...
xD
Picked up some other things along the way then saw they had a Staff form marked Historical next to their normal staff order form so decided to get stuck in.
Saw about 5-6 people that day with the Historical book.
Looks like I might be attending the Sept. Tourn afterall!
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May 25, 2010 16:12:25 GMT
Post by carl on May 25, 2010 16:12:25 GMT
nice one. sign him up Mr.Stevens!!!!
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