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Post by Simon Robinson on Dec 7, 2011 14:21:25 GMT
Sillly question really, but here goes anyway -
Does anybody have any ideas of what groundscale HC uses at 28mm
1" = 50ft, 1"=10ft?
Cheers
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Post by james on Dec 10, 2011 9:23:54 GMT
28mm = 6ft man. Therfore 4.66mm is a ft and 14mm a yard. Given that an inch is about 2.8mm I think we can say 1 inch = 2 yards. You can do the maths from there mate but thats how my Dad would scale a model for his railways.
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Post by wstevens on Dec 10, 2011 19:09:04 GMT
I don't think 1 inch is 2.8 mm, I have it at 24mm is an inch. So as my calculation from the other thread in the WAB section, an inch is about 5.5 feet in this scale.
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Post by Simon Robinson on Dec 10, 2011 21:57:02 GMT
As I said in the similar WAB topic
Thanks for the answers, not what I was looking for really.
Figure scale is how many people 1 model represents e.g 1:20, 1:50 etc unless it's a skirmish game most war games are not 1:1. If you have a 16 model unit of roman legionaries then if it is a century then you have a 1:5 figure scale, same number of models as a maniple it's now 1:30
This automatically means that the ground scale is also altered so 1" = 25" or 50.
So any idea on figure scale / ground scale when using 28mm models?
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Post by carl on Dec 10, 2011 22:02:21 GMT
think that maybe each game designer has their own take on this so each system could be different.
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Post by Simon Robinson on Dec 14, 2011 17:01:02 GMT
True but the notes still apply - unless HC really is 1 figure = 1 man, which I doubt, then what is the ground-scale and what is the figure-scale?
I know these may sound like esoteric questions but if you're trying to adapt an known battle then they are important considerations when you start.
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Post by tiger1 (Paul) on Dec 14, 2011 19:04:37 GMT
I would use a 10:1 ratio of men to figures and a scale of 10 metres = 1".
This is from Clash of Empires p8 which is a good comparable with HC. I dont believe Rick has set a scale for HC as he is trying not to be too precise. He uses tiny small standard and large units leaving scale and figure ratio to the imagination.
hope this helps
P
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Post by Simon Robinson on Dec 15, 2011 13:31:16 GMT
I view HC as better for big battles so the 1:10 figure-scale and the 1"=10m groundscale seem low to me.
But as you say Rick didn't actually specify so we can always use what works on a case by case basis - I suspect that if you went throughthe sample historical battles in the book you could work out ground/figure scales for each one and get a different answer every time
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Post by zedeyejoe on Apr 10, 2012 15:10:19 GMT
1 inch = 25.4mm (plus lots more factions if you are into them). Figure scale and ground scale can be totally different. Example, you could use 15mm scale figures and keep the distances the same, the figure size would change but the ground scale would remain the same. Figures are just game markers, it does not matter if you double the number, halve the number, just keep the ratios the same. For Black Powder we use half the recommended unit sizes, means we get twice the number of units to fight with, cos in Hail Caesar/Black Powder, it is the units that count, not the figures. see, Battle of Magnesia 3vwargames.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/battle-of-magnesia-190bc-as-game.html normally I use 1 figure = 20 men (old WRG scale) but for this battle I halved it to 1 figure = 40 men and thats still fighting on an 11 foot wide table with 15mm figures. Do it with 1:20 and 28mm figures and the table would have to be 44 feet wide to fit them in.
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